Apprising Ministries points out that Southern Baptist megapastor and celebrity Rick Warren has managed to get himself out into the news again. First, the picture above is from this Warren tweet:


I also showed you in Rick Warren, Michael Horton, And Doing The Daniel Diet he’s been in Time magazine lately as well. Then there’s these tweets:



Apparently this interview (see video below) all went pretty well because Warren would announce that last Sunday:


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In addition, this also piqued the attention of the secular boxing media. For example, in Pastor Rick Warren’s Visit To Manny Pacquiao’s Training Camp at GoFightLive we’re told:

On May 29, Pastor Rick Warren paid a visit to the Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood, Calif., to observe Manny Pacquiao train for his June 9 world title defense against Timothy Bradley, Jr.

Following the training session, Pastor Rick interviewed Manny and his wife Jinkee, conducted a Bible study and prayed with them. (source)

That appears to be a press release, possibly from Saddleback Church, as we see the same title and wording at a number of boxing sites, e.g. Pastor Rick Warren’s Visit To Manny Pacquiao’s Training Camp at Boxing News 24.

Actually, as he leaves, below Warren almost looks rather like a presidential candidate on the campaign trail:

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Christian Post then quotes what Rick Warren had said to the faithful at Saddleback about Pacquiao:

“Manny started out as a young man in a very poor family of six and his mom couldn’t take care of him so she kicked him out at 14 and he lived on the streets of Manila. That’s where he learned to fight,” Warren told his congregation attending Saddleback’s main church campus in Lake Forest, Calif., and an online audience.

“He read Purpose Driven Life and came to Christ. He told me, ‘Rick, the first time I read through that book I cried through every chapter.’ And he said, ‘I’ve given it out to everybody who I know. Now, I’m a Christian, I make all my team … we all memorize Scripture together,'” he continued to say during the introduction of the video.

Warren said the short video segment of his long interview with Pacquiao that he was about to show was a discussion on the importance of “doing the Word, not just studying the Word.”

In the video, Warren is seen with Pacquiao – a Catholic – and the boxer’s wife, Jinkee.

Warren begins the interview by saying, “This guy’s a Bible-quoting maniac. He quoted probably 50 different verses to me in the time we were talking.” (source)

Notice that Pacquiao is a practicing Roman Catholic. This is not surprising considering his upbringing:

This is Manny Pacquiao, devout [Roman] Catholic, Filipino idol, street urchin turned benefactor… Emmanuel ‘Manny’ Dapidran Pacquiao was born in December 1978 in the small town of Kibawe in Mindanao,…his mother,…raised her children to believe in God.

She hoped that Manny might one day become a [Roman Catholic] priest… On the island of Pacquiao’s birth, Mindanao, rebels have been fighting for a separate Islamic state within the mainly Catholic country for decades;… (source)

So, we have reason to wonder what “came to Christ” means in Pacquiao’s case. Being a “Bible-quoting maniac” proves nothing. The same can be said of the Mormon Missionaries going door-to-door converting your neighbors.

Yes, in spite of Rome’s false gospel, a Roman Catholic may find Christ; but as you can see in Rick Warren And Teachings Of Demons, it’s clear that Rick Warren considers even devout Roman Catholics to be Christians.

Dr. R.C. Sproul gives us the proper perspective concerning Roman Catholics whom God regenerates and they come to believe the genuine Gospel:

[Y]es, there are believers, true believers, here and there in the Roman Catholic Church, and Liberal Churches and so on.

They are mavericks to their community, and I personally believe that those people who truly accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior in the Biblical sense, who live in the Roman Catholic Church, have a moral and spiritual duty to leave that communion immediately!

They are living in sin by continuing to be a visible member of an institution that anathematizes the Gospel of Jesus Christ! (source)

In the end, this is certainly a main by-product of the influence of Peter Drucker upon Rick Warren. As Christian apologist Chris Rosebrough has pointed out:

Rick Warren, Bob Buford and Bill Hybels are the Druckerite “trinity”. All three of these men were personally mentored by the late business guru Peter Drucker and these three men more than any others are responsible for innovating the church by purposely changing congregations from a pastoral leadership model to a CEO / Innovative Change Agent leadership model.

All of these innovations were strategically crafted under the careful eye of Peter Drucker. And all of these innovations were incubated, introduced and injected into the church through the coordinated efforts of Drucker’s disciples through their different but intimately connected organizations; Leadership Network, the Purpose Driven Network and the Willow Creek Association. (source)

Anyone who doubts that Rick Warren was mightily molded by Peter Drucker’s mythology and then brought his pragmatic business teachings into the visible Christian church need only watch the following video clip:

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