Now, let’s begin by considering recent issues e.g. like  Mark Driscoll Promoting Word Faith Teacher Brian Houston? and Mark Driscoll, Acts 29 Network, And Rick Warren and Mark Driscoll And Contemplative Idolatry.

That’s why  Apprising Ministries has been telling you  that Emerging Church New Calvinist Mark Driscoll is badly adrift and taking more and more people with him. As usual, people have been objecting to my coverage.

Certainly I am the first to say each is entitled to their own opinion and I don’t take personal offense when people disagree with me. After-all, it’s only fair, no. If I’m going to point out error then I’ll be willing to take the heat.

Ok, now that we have this taken care of, let me say that in the same way these critics rightly expect me to have evidence for my assertions, I in turn then expect the same from those who differ with me. Make sense.

There are those who have taken issue with my article Mark Driscoll Vision-Casting Dead Bodies His Mars Hill Bus Will Roll Over. The piece also concerns Christian apologist Chris Rosebrough of Pirate Christian Radio.

The other day on his Fighting for the Faith program he ran an exclusive clip of Mark Driscoll addressing a gathering of his Acts 29 church planters in 2007, which he noted. I will produce it below with a transcription.

But hey there kats and kitties, hippies and squares, now you have the context for this next cut I’m gonna spin, which is tearing up the charts faster than Lady Gaga changes costumes each show:

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Here’s what Mark Driscoll told church planters under his command:

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Here’s what I’ve learned. You cast vision for your mission; and if people don’t sign up, you move on.  You move on. There are people that are gonna to die in the wilderness and there are people that are gonna take the hill. That’s just how it is.

Too many guys waste too much time trying to move stiff-necked, stubborn, obstinate people. (pause) I am all about blessed subtraction. There is a pile of dead bodies behind the Mars Hill bus (laughs) and by God’s grace it’ll be a mountain by the time we’re done.

You either get on the bus or you get run over by the bus. Those are the options; but the bus ain’t gonna stop.  And I’m just a—I’m just a guy who is like, “Look, we love ya, but, this is what we’re doing.” There’s a few kinda people. There’s people who get in the way of the bus.

They gotta get run over. There are people who wanna take turns driving the bus. They gotta get thrown off (laughs). ‘Cuz they wanna go somewhere else. There are people who will be on the bus, leaders and helpers and servants, they’re awesome.

There’s also just, sometimes, nice people who sit on the bus and shut up. (pause) They’re not helping or hurting. Just let ‘em ride along. Y’know what I’m saying?  But, don’t look at the nice people that are just gonna sit on the bus and shut their mouth and think, “I need you to lead the mission.”

They’re never going to.  At the very most you’ll give ’em a job to do and they’ll serve somewhere and help out in a minimal way. If someone can sit in a place that hasn’t been on mission for a really long time they are by definition not a leader.  And, so they’re never going to lead.

You need to gather a whole new court. I’ll tell you guys what, too. You don’t do this just for your church planting or replanting. I’m doin’ it right now. I’m doin’ it right now. We just took certain guys and rearranged the seats on the bus.

Yesterday we fired two elders for the first time in the history of Mars Hill last night. They’re off the bus, under the bus. They were off mission so now they’re unemployed. I mean (pause) you—this will be the defining issue as to whether or not you succeed or fail.